A new trombone costs about the same as a bicycle of the same quality. It helps center the weight closer to the hand braces, aiding a new player not yet used to holding the weight of a trombone. by cboalesjr Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:50 pm, Post by EriKon Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:09 pm, Post by Trav1s Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:09 pm, Post I went with a 36, but I like the idea of a 3b+ and wish I could afford to spend time with both. When anything bigger is required I just play a 42. Key of Bb/F, .525 medium-large bore, 8 two-piece yellow brass bell with engraving, F rotor mechanism, ball bearing rotor linkage, traditional wrap, chrome-plated nickel silver seamless inner slide, brass outer slide, chrome-plated handgrip, tubular brass body braces, genuine Vincent Bach mouthpiece, wood shell case. . by cboalesjr Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:23 pm, Post by cboalesjr Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:00 am, Post The nickel is partly for style, but nickel's density adds strength to the instrument and improves projection of your sound. Sometimes brass parts are chrome plated. Key of Bb, .500 medium bore, 8 two-piece yellow brass bell, chrome-plated nickel silver seamless inner slide, brass outer slide, chrome-plated handgrip, tubular nickel silver body braces, removable nickel-plated balance weight, genuine Vincent Bach mouthpiece, double-wall case. It also comes with a one year warranty at no extra charge for our local customers keeping your instrument in perfect playable condition! by hyperbolica Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:13 pm, Post This particular horn was made in the USA in 2006 and comes with the original canvas and zipper case from that era. Abundant tone-volume and carrying power. These instruments have a more sophisticated design, and may have been tested with many component options before a final design was completed. This is achieved by the use of one-piece construction, allowing for unrestricted vibration of the bell. back to sweetwater.com: If it keeps happening, give us a call at 800-222-4700 and have the following Reference ID available. $5000 buys you a premier custom model from a renown builder. The 43 produces a brighter, bigger sound ideal for lead trumpet players, whereas the 37 with its medium-large bore is better as an all around horn. Many players may own one of each, along with an auxiliary model like an alto or bass trombone. I have wanted a 42 for a long time, but I think I will be very happy with the LT36BOG on its way to me. I could also buy a Shires or New Vintage Conn or Getzen 3047. I believe they did used to be made as well, back in the 70s and 80s. by MagnumH Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:35 pm, Post These variants were different combinations of tuning slide, tuning slide tubes, and the bell size. It's easy if you like bicycles. EUR Netherlands, by cboalesjr Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:08 pm, Post Hello world! The intermediate model 200B is very similar, but has less nickel trim, less hand work in the making of the bell, and no options available. The other Bach is the Soloist, I don't know which incarnation though. by Shumanbean Thu May 28, 2020 2:03 pm, Post Gold brass bells are standard, which help produce a warm, broad tone. This instrument review was with aMonette TS 11 G mouthpiece. Were one of the few brass-only retail outlets left in the U.S. whose employees have combined decades of performance experience in both classical and jazz settings. Even players that I think are fantastic. We've always focused on professional instruments here, but many clients wish to buy and play something that more realistically fits their budget and playing desires. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. And thanks again! The Bach model 39 is an Eb alto trombone built on the Eb harmonic series instead of the Bb harmonic series, so it is a higher pitched instrument than the other trombones. by Doug Elliott Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:23 am, Post But in my current scenario, I kind of am doing it all. These were labeled as follows on the bell:6, MODEL LT6 BACH STRADIVARIUS TENOR TROMBONE. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. History and words [ edit] Currency: Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Structurally, the 3B+ has a narrower slide, so it feels smaller in the hands and, to me, a more snug and uncomfortable fit against my head, resulting in an awkward left angle. You can expect to pay $900 and up for a trombone like this. But you have to realize that even if the 42A is slightly better with air flow than the 42BO (which I own and use), I'm not sure that a $400 difference actually lines up to the difference between the horns. I'd say I agree with most of the comments on this - the 36 is more versatile and the 3B+ is a bit more linear and compact, but great too. Bach 36B Stradivarius Professional Model Tenor Trombone w/ Traditional F Rotor $1,299 Used - Very Good Great Value Used Bach Model 6 (VI) Bb Tenor Trombone (SN: 1682) $1,495 $300 price drop $1,195 Used - Good Bach TB200 Step-Up Model TB200 Tenor Trombone $475 Used - Good Used Bach 16 Bb Tenor Trombone (SN: 152610) $1,295 Used - Good Even though I love the sound, I was never as fond of their response and flexibility until I tried the LT (lightweight) nickel slides. The F-attachment is a very sleek open wrap design and the red brass bell is stunning. Or can anyone describe the difference? I think its the close wrap. by cboalesjr Sat Jan 28, 2023 11:20 am, Post . Bach LR180 Series Stradivarius Professional Trumpets, King 3BL Trombone 3B with Lightweight Slide, Bach Stradivarius Trombones Straight Tenors, Mon-Fri 9:30-6:00 | Sat 9:30-4:00 | Pacific. by FOSSIL Thu May 28, 2020 3:51 pm, Post Learn More. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. model. Oddly, the 12 and 16 are listed as medium bore trombones. by harrisonreed Fri Jan 06, 2023 5:03 pm, Post The red brass bell is distinctive. Article mentioned Bach 6.5 AL. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Bach catalogs from the late 1960s to the mid 1970s listed the 36 and 42 as large bore trombones. Bach Stradivarius Trombones - 36B & 42B F-Rotor Models Retail: $ 5,839.00 - $ 7,094.00 $ 3,999.00 - $ 4,859.00 Financing Starting @ $90.97 per month United Midwest Financing - Based on 60 months and 12.99% annual percentage rate Model Contact Us To Order If you are interested in this item, please contact us. The 36 has always fit me physically better, but I haven't played on one that I liked enough to keep. In this video we check out the difference between the Bach Strad 180ML in 37 bell vs 43 bell configuration. by cboalesjr Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 am, Post Thanks for the nice words and accurate descriptions of my mouthpieces. By using the F valve, the entire chromatic scale down to the pedal notes can be played. Subscribe to our BachLoyalist newsletter! The latest trending BachLoyalist articles. Aristocrat .509 bore, 8 bell, clear lacquer, Bach 350-12C mouthpiece, 50882 case. I happen to have the exact same horn (, Thank you! Categories: Trombones; Similar Products. e-mail: music@kesslermusic.com Thanks to each of you for your insightful comments. Both are made in Eastlake, Ohio, USA. That said, those prices are pretty great, so you . Stopped playing until 5 years ago (I'm in my seventies), and that ended when my son "borrowed" my small bore trombone. 36 is a .525 bore. It has a slightly warmer sound and feels a bit more open. Agree I'd just wear myself out on a 42cool to hear that you like your setup. by cboalesjr Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:53 pm, Post by cboalesjr Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:54 am, Post information. This list of both primary and special edition trombones are the best list weve been able to compile. Vintage Bach Model 36 Early Elkhart. Medium Bore slide (0.485) with a medium bore bell. Appreciate yourgood wishes. by Dennis Thu May 28, 2020 9:31 pm, Post Also known as the Palmer Traulsen model.They were only made at the MtVernon factory, not the prior New York or later Elkhart factory? I haven't played a 36b but I use my 2125 in pit orchestra, concert band (when i'm not playing bass) and when I'm not on bass in trombone choir as well (almost never) but it seems like a very versatile horn for me. I wanted to let you know the result: I just bought an LT36BOG (gold bell, lightweight slide, and a 6.5 AL mouthpiece). Gold and red brass and other bell options may be available, and nearly all trim pieces would be made of solid nickel. I bought a 42B in 1971, didn't know they came in different sizes. By continuing to use Reverb, you agree to these updates, and to our cookie policy. on your browser. Like most retailers, we use advanced software to protect your security and personal You're right, playing with my son would be so much fun. Is that a straight tenor? Can you clarify the XT E combo; I don't know what that is. The King 606 is identical, but the outside hand slide tubas are all nickel, as it the bracing and tuning slide sleeves. These are trombones you can be proud to own, and should last you as long as you need them. Together, the attachment and valve allow the 42BOF to retain the wonderful feel of an open wrap while simultaneously condensing the instrument's total footprint. by cboalesjr Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:47 pm, Post Thank you! I love mine, but it's very much a one-horn-to-sorta-do-it-all choice. Other respected models include the Getzen 351 and Yamaha 354. 4250 Bach 39 Alto, LT36B, 42BOF & 42T, King 2103 / 3b, Kanstul 1570CR & 1588CR, Yamaha YBL-612 RII & YBL-830, B&H Eb Tuba, Sterling 1056GHS Euphonium, Livingston Symphony Orchestra NJ - Trombone DougHulme Posts: 441 Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:54 am Location: Portsmouth UK Re: Large king trombones by DougHulme Tue Jul 02, 2019 5:29 pm Thanks! The Bach Stradivarius Trombones 36B & 42B are the primary larger bore F-Rotor models. The Bach model 39 is an Eb alto trombone built on the Eb harmonic series instead of the Bb harmonic series, so it is a higher pitched instrument than the other trombones. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: 36B Stradivarius Professional Model Tenor Trombone with Traditional F Rotor. These may use the newest, most accurate tooling and dies. The Bach TB200B is a medium bore trombone with F-attachment modeled after the popular Bach 36. Im not sure if its the 36b or the 36. The slide action is very good on all our samples, the assembly is clean and perfectly aligned, the seamless bell spinning and buffing and lacquer is also perfect. by cboalesjr Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:46 pm, Post It has a soloistic quality that I like, with more of a beefy small bore feel as I mentioned earlier. Thanks, Andy! A $2000 trombone gets you near the top of the line for many domestic makers. by BGuttman Thu May 28, 2020 4:02 pm, Post I tried it before I bought this one beginning of last year. by MagnumH Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:22 pm, Post The Bach TB200B is a medium bore trombone with F-attachment modeled after the popular Bach 36. The Bach TB301 is made of all brass, with nickel cork barrels (top of the hand slide) and nickel hand braces. To alsandr, appreciate your specific comments; I got the LT slide because I'm hoping the gold bell will provide the desired resonance. This particular horn was made in the USA in 2006 and comes with the original canvas and zipper case from that era. The Benge 175f is also a .525 horn and made of the King parts so what I've heard it is about the same as a King 3B+. Charlie, Thank you! by cboalesjr Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:43 pm, Post I play a Yamaha Xeno 882GO for my large bore horn and a Bach Stradivarius Model 36 for my medium bore horn (if you're looking for a large bore, I would suggest looking at one of the Bach 42 models), and enjoy both a lot. Learn More, We understand the importance of online privacy and are committed to complying with the EU General Data Protection Regulation. Appreciate the feedback. Note that Bach also makes lightweight slides, which are nice, but are surely easier to dent. Upper hand slide braces sometimes get this treatment. The TB301 includes a Vincent Bach 12C mouthpiece, and the King includes a King 12C mouthpiece. I would almost say it sounds like a smaller 42, but I'm pretty sure the 36 was designed first right? I can try a friend's brass slide for comparison, so jury is out until I can get my hands on this trombone. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. by Posaunus Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:21 pm, Post All rights reserved. If you can, try before you buy. Very free flowing air and a wonderful sound. Charlie. Aidan Ritchie, LA area player and teacher. Bach Stradivarius trombones are famous for their fullness of sound and projection. by Posaunus Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:24 pm, Post $3,999.00 $4,859.00Financing Starting @ $90.97 per monthUnited Midwest Financing - Based on 60 months and 12.99% annual percentage rate. as a std. 10% of proceeds from instruments sales donated to Autism organizations. Can hardly wait to hear the soundand to see the horn! Price, style, and response are all important when choosing a trombone, so it's likely one or the other should fulfill your needs. Hi! Press J to jump to the feed. For me they both feel like big small horns (albeit different flavors), and .525 with large shank pipes feel like small big horns. by Posaunus Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:50 pm, Post F valve valve slide can be pulled out to E. For example, a $100 trombone is about as nice as a bicycle from Walmart, which means it's only marginally nice, and disposable. I am performing the David in a few months and have experimented with several trombones including a Bach model 50 single rotor bass. Thanks yall. With regards to coloring and getting a full spectrum of sounds I do find the 36 to be versatile but just a bit heavy and more work for pop Salsa etc. Bach Trumpets Bell Variations (Sterling Silver), Bach Trumpets Bell Manufacturing Process, Bach Trombones Model (Year Introduction), Bach Trombones Build Configurations (1957), Bach Mouthpieces Vincent Bach personal cornet mouthpiece, Bach Mouthpieces French Horn early examples, Bach Mouthpieces Packaging (New York) 1924, Bach Accessories Mouthpiece Case (1925), Bach Accessories Valve Protector (1925), Vincent Bach Soloist Scarborough Spa Orchestra, Vincent Bach The Story of Vincent Bach (1954), Exteremely limited production model. Bach LT36BOG Trombone Sometimes the small different in price between an intermediate and professional model leads people to say, "I just want to buy it once. by euphobone Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:32 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, Style by Arty - phpBB 3.3 by MrGaby Anyway, thanks again. I have a Bach 36BO and two King 3B and one King 3B/F. There is just something about the tone of Bach trombones that I love. When I first started playing trombone, I used a 36 as an all-purpose horn with a smaller mouthpiece for a small bore feel and a larger one for a large bore feel. Bach - Classical Music for Studying & Brain Power HALIDONMUSIC 429K views 4 months ago The Best of Mozart HALIDONMUSIC 243M views 10 years ago Fundraiser Most Iconic Classical Music Masterpieces. Thank you! Trombone icons created by Freepik - Flaticon. This instrument review was with aMonette TS 6 Slap mouthpiece. If you are interested in getting a custom build Bach, give us a call! The slide is smooth as butter, and the sound is exactly what you would expect from a professional Bach trombone. Insensitive joke involving indigenous peoples is not cool or funny, but very weird and uncomfortable. . The Getzen 451 is a small bore model aimed at the new player, but we mostly sell them to adults who may be occasional players and want a beautiful instrument for not much money. Mouthpieces are normally the smallest size, a 12C, which helps the new player support the tone. 12 Month, 0% Financing Option Available on New Instrument at Advertised New Price Only. The Bach 42BO is the most popular selling Bach Stradivarius symphonic trombone. It will probably be a matter of preference based on feel. Post Probably not that much, but it is enough that it bothers me while playing. Bach 39 Alto Trombone. by BGuttman Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:42 am, Post This site has grown through the contributions of fellow Bach loyalists, and is one of the most complete references of Bach related instruments. by cboalesjr Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:30 pm, Post For me, adding an LT slide produces the ideal combination of tone, response, flexibility, and intonation in a Bach trombone. 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