The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. i did not surprise me that they would arrest a person on a charge that does not exist. COVID-19 and Workers Compensation SoleRemedy? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Register a free account today to become a member! I know you are looking for a trade. Just wondering You must log in or register to reply here. The demand of used HECKLER KOCH SP89 pistol's has fallen 1 units over the past 12 months. Of course time found cheaper ways of getting things done but you have to appreciate the care the P9s received. I didn't know that either.. Trigger Groups 0-1. Pristine, no marks, never fired. HK pistols use a two letter date code to identify the year of manufacture. Tony will chime in here shortly. The HK SP89 is a large frame pistol especially suited for sporting use. (LogOut/ The government may establish constructive possession by demonstrating that the defendant exercised ownership, dominion or control over the premises in which the contraband is concealed. How about $4,250 shipped to 32202, Jax, FL,? 277 Location South shore Sep 13, 2021 #1/14 Here is a rare piece I'm looking to trade from my collection is a mint unfired H&k sp89 date coded with KA stamped from sterling West Virginia, gun comes with original shipping box the pistol was shipped in, styrofoam box , all manuals and warranty cards, 1 15rd dated mag. Mechanically excellent. Heckler & koch 4 hk factory magazine.32 acp (7.65mm) 8 rounds early date (#7) this mag is for a. This item can be shipped to United States. I **DO NOT** Have The Box, Or Styrofoam. So in short i will have thier ass, any suggestions out there? I also planned and taught several Firearms in Estates CLE classes for the Pennsylvania Bar Institute (PBI). If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. :biggrin: Tony On August 27, 2009, Jesus Amador, Jr., was arrested by an undercover officer when he sought to sell his Heckler and Koch SP89 pistol. The receiver was refinished in HK Black and the Barrel, Magazine Release & Bolt Carrier received a New Phosphate finish. Well Peter, lets start with drugs are illegal and guns are NOT! If Mr. Amador merely possessed the vertical grip, the pistol would have to be registered under the NFA as an AOW. . Terrible treatment of American citizens. Mr. Amador posted the following on the FloridaGunTrader website. The side of the receiver is marked "Made In W Germany, H&K Inc., Sterling VA." The top of the receiver is marked "HK, SP 89", serial number and the Ulm factory proofmark and an "KA" date stamp. I briefly read about the Thompson Center case and it seems to me that that ruling hinged on the fact that the parts involved had legitimate alternate uses that didnt involve NFA applications. Also the cutout the case was orobably foe a MP5 which would have to cutout and a SP89 will fit in it. Being a Gunsmith Pros and Cons of this Popular Profession. Excellent with 98% of the original black finish with light handling marks and minor scratches on the left side of the plastic forearm. A forum dedicated to and laser-focused on Heckler & Koch firearms, Heckler & Koch accessories and the owners and enthusiasts that love them! and federal law is not violated. Most damning for Mr. Amador, other than being caught in possession of the SP89 with the shoulder stock and vertical grip is the fact that the case has a cut out for the SP89 to be placed in the case WITH the vertical foregrip, which would seem to connote, contrary to his position, that the SP89 was fitted with the foregrip at one point. I often wonder how the ATF could hold the opinion that a person who owns a semi-auto AR15, along with a post 86 DIAS (drop in auto sear) would be in possession of a unregistered machine gun. Publication date 1993 Topics hk, manual, sp89 Collection manuals_contributions; manuals; additional_collections Language English. Was owned by dudes father previously. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I am looking at buying this P9s, by this pix would you assume it was made in 1973? NEW & UNFIRED SINCE CONVERSION INVESTMENT GRADE HK-MP5KN-PDW 9MM SEAR READY SHORT BARREL RIFLE BY TDYER GUNSMITH. Have a mint condition first year IK SP89. . You are using an out of date browser. MP5-N. With the success of the . With this pre-ban SP89, you can make it an all German short barreled rifle. March 12, 2021 in NFA Market Board. Yes, HK did not switch to a two letter date code until the late 70s. Firearms Safety and Law Seminar on February 26, 2023 at Friendship Hook & Ladder FireCo. Automatic Knives to be Legal In Pennsylvania NextYear, Operation Reticent Recall Solvent Traps and Forced ResetTriggers, Four Approaches to the Current School MaskingOrder, PUC Holding Annual Be Utility Wise Event inBerks. IANAL, but based on my understanding of the Thompson Center case, he might have been OK had he had a 16+ Barrel also since he could have then constructed a legal rifle (with foregrip and stock). could they enforce it? It may not display this or other websites correctly. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. My business partners wanted ATF 4473 (5300.9) Part 1 a few weeks ago and were made aware of a document management site that hosts an online forms library . Posts: 15,713 . With that said, I just purchased a date coded (1991) HK SP89. He would not even talk to me when i requested to speak to him yet he was more than eager to talk when a signed order from the judge went on their desk when it came to retrieval of property. wcbrowning At the federal and state levels for individuals, I actively defend the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution and Section 21 of the PA Constitution, as well as, help individuals with: I know it was my first gun bought in the 70s from a police trade in. The item "HK H&K HECKLER KOCH MP5 SP89 SP 89 SP-89 PARTS KIT UNFIRED" is in sale since Sunday, September 29, 2019. "Sport pistol" (translated) and the year it was first imported. This forearm comes standard with SP89's. Similar to the MP5K, but without a foregrip and an extended shroud. Features a hooded pin front and a round drum rear sights. Also just for the record i at all times stated it was a pistol, never had the stock or grip on the pistol, notified the person it was illegal to put on without a stamp and even was going to assist in LEGALLY getting a sbr stamp thru a FFL , and of course i asked about if they where a florida resident as well as if they can legally own a gun. The grip is excellent with some light scratches overall. - Heckler & Koch The date code is located on the Left hand side of the pistol and is represented by two letters. Click here for more information. My bet was when he sold it to the guy there was audio and video of the whole thing. Joined Nov 11, 2020 Posts 6,023 Location Alabama. (LogOut/ 01-08-2012, 10:22 AM gunsmithcats. Consider both sides in the vaccine debate, if youcan. If anyone with serial numbers between 21-13593 and 21-13678 on their SP89's, please advise me if the top receiver is marked "HK SP 89" (early), or "HK SP89" (later)!!! - ATF Compliance Inspections; I also had an article published on Fee Disputes in Workers Compensation cases in the Widener Law Journal, Volume 18, No. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. The letter will correspond with the number. AWB work around. Just stumbled upon this article. RIAC believes that this website is accessible to the widest possible audience pursuant to the guidelines of the Americans with Disability Act. Use of the new SP5K as a short barreled rifle host will require you to use some U.S. made parts to be legal. Hk magazines are produced to the same level of finish and quality as hk's firearms, with no compromises. (LogOut/ HK Proshop : For the Heckler and Koch Enthusiast. So, why would you think that drug dealers have rights that should NOT be infringed? Last price drop to 5200 before it goes in the safe into hiding. AGG. I have recently blogged about the issue of constructive possession of NFA firearms in my article NFA and Constructive Possession: Myth or Reality?. Heckler & Koch SP89 Pre Ban - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 916310108. Pretty simple. There is no easy answer, as it will depend on a number of factors. NFA and Constructive Possession: Myth or Reality? Asking $5200. Were the implications of that decision more narrow than that or is the DOJ just ignoring it? However, because he also had a stock, the pistol would have to be registered as a short-barreled rifle, PRIOR to purchasing or possessing the shoulder stock and/or vertical grip. why arent they out in Chicago busting street drug dealers? This item is in the category "Sporting Goods\Hunting\Gun Parts\Pistol". Complete with three extra magazines and one unopened 100 round C-Mag drum magazine for the HK MP5 with black carrying pouch. Powered by Invision Community, HK SP89 excellent condition with box and laser* price dropped*, Copyright 1999-2023, Sturmgewehr.com and Respective Members. I am one of only a handful of attorneys across the US that practices in the niche area of law known as firearms law. Interesting. I was wondering if it was legal to purchase a sp89. If you want an all German MP5K PDW host short barrel rifle, this is what you need to do it. ). Come join the discussion regarding HK pistols, long arms, NFA arms, HK accessories, HK history and trivia and more. By A - 0 B - 1 C - 2 D - 3 E - 4 F - 5 G - 6 H - 7 I - 8 K - 9 Like the model numbering scheme, the date codes are a 2 letter code and indicate the year of manufacture: Therefore, if your HK91 shows a date code of IH, it was made in 1987. This page is intended as a guide to identify the various H&K manufactured MP5 variants. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/florida-man-arrested-for-constructive-possession-of-an-sbr.472404/page-2, Hello guys its me Jesus Amador with the so called illegal sbr. JavaScript is disabled. The P9s is under appreciated that's for sure. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox! You are using an out of date browser. Average Used Price- . hk pistol manual Addeddate 2019-12-17 04:17:47 Foldoutcount 0 Identifier hksp89p Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t6f273r8s Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) All this work was done ty Terry Dyer. Senior Member : Join Date: Nov 2005. 2023 Rock Island Auction Company. The atf needs to be dismantled. NES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***, (SOLD) PreBan Pre Ban HK H&K USP9 Pistol Chambered in 9mm, Unfired Glock 19 Gen 4 with Trijicon HD NS - SPF. Description: HK SP89 Like New with 2 clips (30-39) and 2 clip (15) Condition: Used, As New Brand: HK Caliber: 9mm (other) Item #: 931026391 SKU: SP89 Location: CA Trades Accepted: No Time Left: (Auction Ended) Shipping Notes: Buyer to pay for shipping HK SP89 only used once. It will be easy to turn it back into the pistol it was when I bought it if I ever give up my license or die well, I guess my son's will convert it back if I die. Stamped date code ic 7.62x51. I think thw sheriff of that county should have arrested the Atf agents for violating that mans 2nd amendment rights. I saw that you guy posted threads on what happened to me and i gotta say some of you guys know your stuff, that is exactly what happend, constructive intent is bull**** there is no such thing in the statutes. 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