Help for product 90451 . Any single shot falling block like the Ruger No. While rifle barrels commonly range in length from 14.5 to 26in (37 to 66cm), pistol barrels are typically much shorter, ranging from 2 to 12in (5.1 to 30.5cm) although occasionally up to 16in (41cm) for some competition barrels. The purpose of the increased pressure was to allow it to perform more effectively in the shorter barrel of the XP-100. Re: 218 Bee, 219 Zipper, 220 Hornet. Designed to compete with the .22 Hornet, Winchester necked down the .25-20 Winchester to hold .224-inch-diameter bullets (the .25-20 itself was a .32-20 necked down), and the Model 65 was offered in .218 Bee, .25-20 and .32-20. The pig was dashing across a field about 150 yards away when the bullet struck just behind the shoulder, punched through the lungs, and lodged against the far side hide, looking like a perfectly mushroomed cup-and-core deer bullet, the expanded lead loose in the jacket. Despite its smaller size, the .221 Fireball is capable of velocities nearly equal to that of the .222 Remington largely due to its higher SAAMI pressure. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The bullet was designed for lever actions rifles by lowering In addition to being outstanding in the 300 Blackout, it performs well in many smaller capacity cartridges such as the 17 Hornet, 17 Ackley Hornet, 218 Bee, 221 Fireball and many more. The 20 VarTarg wildcat is basically the 221 Fireball necked down to take a .204 bullet. The maximum SAAMI pressure level for the .221 Fireball is 52,000 C.U.P. Absolutely!! While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. Bullets heavier than 45 grains can be used, but most rifles in .218 Bee have barrels with a rifling twist rate of 1:16 inches, which can be too slow to stabilize them in flight. Only one factory load was offered: a 46-grain hollowpoint at 2,860 fps. The .221 Fireball has also been used as the base for the .300 Whisper, sometimes referred to as the .300/.221 or .300 Fireball. Such is the confusing world of cartridge nomenclature. Quite obviously, the .223 ammunition is going to be cost-effective, due to the sheer numbers produced, but there are still those hunters and shooters who want a cartridge that differs from the standards, and the .222 Remington certainly has the cool-factor in addition to the practical applications. To show viewers how to succeed at long range, J. Guthrie gears up for a challenging shot while chasing Colorado pronghorn at long range with DPMS' Panther 6.5 Creedmoor. Other than the big .220 Swift, the only serious competition for the Triple Deuce was the .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, and the .219 Zipper. I must admit, choosing between the 218 Bee and the 221 Fireball would be difficult if ballistic performance is the primary factor. Velocities shown represent five or more rounds clocked 12 feet from the muzzle of a Marlin Model 1894CL with a 20-inch barrel (lever-action rifle loads) and a Sako L46 with a 24-inch barrel. Despite the 1 in its title, the 221 Fireball shoots the same .224 bullets as all other modern 22-caliber centerfires. I agree with Lone Star. Whereas the Hornet was designed for use in bolt-action rifles, the Bee was designed for a rear-locking lever-action rifle, and for this reason, it was loaded to lower chamber pressure. The hornet is kind of ho-hum due to being extremely finicky in accuracy/load development,but rechambering it to "K" makes it an entirely different critter. I hope to try the 32-20 as well, though I think they are even harder to find and they bring . It might even be less well known than some of its own offspring like the 17 Fireball and 300 Blackout. Greg Warne sent me one of the first standard Bees, and I found it to be quite accurate. Well, the performance of the two is pretty similar, with the Bee having the slight velocity advantage, but the Hornet has the advantage of more factory loads and more availability. Pistols were 1911s and Lugers or revolvers. entered the market during 1939, and never gained any traction compared to others such as the .22 But the .218 Bee is superior to it in several ways. NOPE. Hornet and Bee are much smaller, not as loud but you will still need hearing protection. Give a Gift 1 in .218 Bee, components were readily available, so feeding the single-shot was no issue. That the 221 Fireball ever made it into this world is unusual. The 223 WSSM nudges out the 220 Swift by about 40 fps, but it is practically moribund and not shown here. That it later gave birth to even more cartridges is rather remarkable. My 10" .223 is very loud unless I load with a faster powder like BlueDot, then the blast and performance are like a normal Bee load. The primer is a boxer for small rifle where the anvil is a separate stirrup piece that sits My predator shoots about 4185 the way i got it loaded and the athena prolly around 4234 to 4435. Back in the 1930s Marlin offered it in its Model 90, an over-under combination gun with one barrel in .410 and the other in .218 Bee. The .22Hornet, .218 Bee and .22 Jet have minimum taper or shoulders, whether one would would call then straight or not. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. (Works great on upstate New York woodchucks too as I can attest from personal experience.). All Shooting Times subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. But, as of late, and greatly because of some European rifle companies, Ive seen the .222 Remington making a bit of a comeback. The Bee.I love it!.especially in the 10". First, the .204 Ruger shoots the smallest bullet: .204 (5.2mm) compared to the .224 (5.7mm) bullets used by the other three. I have a cousin who swears that rimmed cases are superior in the Contender. The 30-06, as most of us know, was rearranged to become the 270 Winchester, 280 Remington, 25-06 Remington, 338-06, 35 Whelen and others. The .218 Bee is another small round that won't be loud. A partial family portrait with one interloper. I don't really know but I hear the 218 bee is real expensive to shoot. Yes, the 22 refers to the bore diameter, but the 1 has nothing to do with bullet diameter, which is the standard .224. Hundreds of rounds of ammunition were sent downrange every day, and by the end of the hunt, I found myself wanting to shoot the .222 more than the .223. The 300 BLK is a crazy idea, but it works. Your Price: $394.00 Part Number: 122-ABCON Availability: Made to Order Sale: Does not qualify for promotions Feature: Must Ship Signature Required Addtnl $7 NOTE: Made to Order- Please allow 9 months *Total Payment Required Select Option for Availability Select Caliber * Select Barrel Contour * Select Finish * Barrel Length * Select Twist Rate In a short 9"-10" barrel my choice would be the Bee also of the three you mention. the casing. Advantages to "K" are: brass can be fireformed by firing factory loaded hornet ammo,gain 300 fps,longer case life,easier extraction,more accurate,MUCH easier to find accurate load,and MUCH less finicky to load for without running into pressure issues which istypical with a lot of tiny cases. Mag. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. In that class,you neglected 1 of the best lil cartridges I've ever used-the .22 K hornet. RE: 218 bee vs. 17 rem vs. 221 fireball. You can drive a 40-grain Ballistic Tip 3,250 fps to extend MPBR to about 260 yards. Savage Model 110 Timberline 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle: Full Review, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. For years it averaged 1.600" groups with all manner of load variations and bullets. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Mag. 7mm Remington Magnum vs. 27 Nosler .257 Roberts vs. .25-06 Remington .300 H&H Magnum vs. .300 Winchester Magnum .308 Winchester vs. .338 Federal .222 Remington vs. .223 Remington .270 WSM vs. 7mm Rem. Mag..300 RSAUM vs. .300 WSM .500 Jeffrey vs. .505 Gibbs7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM.308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington.303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser.30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s.17 HMR vs. .17 WSM.450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express350 Legend vs. .35 Remington.280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. Does this not look like something out of a 1950s SciFi outerspace flick? I really wanted a Bee. It saddens me to say this, but the future of the .218 Bee is looking less than bright. Binder, if they still make factory ammo for the 221 Fireball I stand corrected, as for velocity my Sierra second addition list the fastest load for a 50 grain bullet from the 221 at 2550 fps. A whole lot of necking (not the kind we did in high school,) stretching, shortening and lengthening. I would not use it unless it's all I had, Good Hunting. Aftermarket barrels are still made for it. That is what i ordered. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. It kicked about like a 22 Hornet. Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. The 22 hornet has less report than the 221 fireball . In that class,you neglected 1 of the best lil cartridges I've ever used-the .22 K hornet. the neck of the .25-20 Winchester to accept the .224 bullet shell. Like the 6PPC, it has the optimal bore to case capacity ratio for max efficiency. The .218 Bee was designed in 1938 by manufacturer Winchester and is based off the .32-20 Winchester cartridge. One species has evolved into obese cranial fatheads with thin skin in comparison that whines about anything and everything as their shield against their environment. In a world of hyper-velocity cartridges, where shooting into the next zip code has almost become the norm, it can be refreshing to spend some time with one of the classic rimmed cartridges which our grandfathers used for varmints, predators and small-game species. Don't know how fast you can get the bee, or how long the brass will last, but I get 3200 fps out of Nosler Ballistic tip 40 grainers with sub moa accuracy in the 221. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. vs. .300 WSM.223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington. Muzzle blast was judged excessive too. (HEAD) i love my 223 AI but im just wanting another rifle get what im sayin???? Initial loads pushed a 45-grain jacketed bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2400 fps, and Winchester believed in the cartridge to the point where they offered it in the Model 54 bolt-action rifle and it was one of the original chamberings for the Model 70 in 1936. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. It has been so popular as a wildcat that in 2007 Remington legitimized it by introducing their own version only slightly different from the Mach IV and calling it the .17 Remington Fireball. It came about in 1938 when Winchester, looking to boost the sagging sales of its Model 92 rifle, added the .218 Bee - failing to recognize that, even back then, hunters wanted their varmint cartridges in bolt actions and single-shots, not lever actions. Someone just shapes a tube of brass, sticks a bullet atop it, chambers a rifle for it and there you go. You guys got me all juiced up . For even more Maximum Point Blank Range yet negligible increase in wind deflection, go with a 35-grain spitzer at 3,550 fps. 10mm Auto. Just as its good fun to grab a good old .30-30 carbine instead of the .30-06 sometimes, time spent with a good rifle chambered for the Hornet or the Bee can be a great change of pace. - PredatorMasters Forums Home About Admin ThePrey Techniques TechPage Reviews Sponsors Links Contact Photos Free Stuff PM Gear Moon & Weather Members Articles The Forums Scholarships Welcome to the Predator Masters Forums Be sure to visit the main Predator Master website at Predator Masters.Com VarmintGuy. Perhaps the most popular platform over the years has been the Thompson Center Contender. COL of the 221 Fireball? I now use. With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Those of us who have handloaded both cartridges also know that due to the thicker wall of the Bee case, it is less susceptible to neck collapse during bullet seating than the Hornet. Other than the big .220 Swift, the only serious competition for the Triple Deuce was the .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, and the .219 Zipper. ????? I called Virgin Valley a few years ago and ask the same question. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Come join the discussion about hunting, fishing, survival, archery gunsmithing, optics, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! No big deal. Just to illustrate how accurate a target-grade .222 can be, the cartridge has the unique distinction of shooting the only 0.0000 five-shot group, fired in September 1973 by Mac McMillan; it was registered as a true one-hole group, though would later be judged as a 0.0009 group, and would be unseated in 2013. The .218 was first introduced in 1938 for the Model 65 lever action rifle. The 221 Fireball, left, sprang from the 222 Remington(center,) before itself giving birth to the 17 Fireball. So they shortened the case, knocked about 5-grains capacity out of it, and came up with that memorable name. 204 is going to be at least as loud as the .223. Its base measures 0.408 inches, has a body with minimal taper and a steeper 15-degree shoulder. ballistic performance based off the 35, 40, 46, and 50 grain are 3,205 ft/s (35 gr), 3,130 ft/s (40 gr), Never had any problems loading for it and it was a great shooter. All rights reserved. The Beatles and Stones hadnt yet rocked the U.S. music scene. More surprising was the 80-pound feral hog that fell to the little 50-grain AccuTip. As it turned out, only a few Model 92s were chambered for the new cartridge, but it managed to find a permanent home in a variation of the Model 92 called the Model 65. It also yields top performance in the 6.8 Remington SPC and the 7.62X39 mm Russian cartridge. These Loads are Maximum and powder charges should be reduced by 10 percent for starting loads. Even though a bullet fired from the Bee started out faster, its trajectory and downrange punch differed very little from the Hornet. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. All three of these cartridges use round nose bullets, and the spitzer bullets in the .222 made a huge difference. This is set up for the 6.5 Grendel. Fireball 17 Mach IV "Match" 17 Mach IV 17-222 17 Javelina . Modern powders have increased the muzzle velocity of the .22 Hornet, and many manufacturers have seen fit to use the lighter 30- and 35-grain bullets to boost velocities further. Those early Remington rifles would routinely print five-shot groups under -inch, with factory ammunition. Much slower and now more popular than the 221 Fireball is the 300 Whisper aka 300 AAC Blackout. Image shows a Howa Mini Action bolt rifle suitable for the 221 Fireball. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. The .222 will give excellent hunting ballistics out to 250 or 300 yards, and is perfect for both varmints and predators alike. The .218 Bee came along in 1937, at the height of the Great Depression, released in Winchester Model 65 lever gun. Reply 12-14-2008, 11:16 AM # 2 stalkingbear The .22 Hornet was a pet cartridge of mine for several years. Wind deflection increases just a quarter inch at 250 yards. The Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Best choices in pointed bullets for use in bolt actions and single-shots are those weighing from 30 to 45 grains from Berger, Nosler, Sierra, Speer and Hornady. with resounding authority. Like the Winchester Model 43 and the Sako L46, the Kimber Model 82 allowed the use of pointed bullets in .218 Bee handloads, which improved its performance over factory ammunition. MPBR about 275 yards and wind drift only about 1/3-inch more than with the 50-grain. The .218 was first introduced in 1938 for the Model 65 lever action rifle. Remington sure captured the cutting edge of fashion with its original XP-100 in 221 Fireball. I like the K-hornet I have, but LOVE the fireball. The 308 Winchester is a prime example of a cartridge case that has been modified to create many new cartridges. A bolt-action pistol? Hold into the wind. Although one piece of jacket broke free and the lead core sat loosely in the jacket, all were lodged together against the offside hide. The .218 Bee has always been considered an accurate cartridge, but never gained traction in It was released in 1950, during the peace and prosperity which followed World War II, and stood in the shadow of the speedy .220 Swift which came 15 years earlier. Also often recommended is slightly quicker burning 2400, but it borders on being too fast, making it tricky to work with in this cartridge. Internal ballistics of the Fireball are fully modern, the short, relatively fat case placing the center of the powder column close to the primer. New Win. Which of the two makes the better choice? Mag..30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards.358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum.22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift.270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM.26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.458 Win. 221 Rem. Whatever you choose for a rifle, chamber it for the stubby little 221 Fireball and Im betting youll love it. vs 9.3x62 Cartridge Clash. The first Kimber was sent back and rebored by them to a K-Hornet. When it comes to choosing powders for .218 Bee handloads, IMR-4227 has long been a popular choice, and H4227 works equally well. But a couple of months ago I saw a CZ 527 American in .221 Fireball, the first one I'd ever seen. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. T/C break-action pistols have probably fired more 221 Fireballs rounds than any other, but they were still five years away when Remington released its bolt-action XP-100. We show you how. I got it trying to get a gun that had about the same noise as a 22 magnum but with better accuracy. 6.5 PRC vs 6.5 RPM What You Need to Know, Savage Impulse Big Game Straight-Pull Bolt-Action Rifle: Full Review, 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. They initially wanted to chamber the XP-100 for their popular 222 Rem., but its pile of powder couldnt be completely burned in that short barrel. 410. The Bee is slightly more performance than the Hornet. vs. .340 Wby. It is a simple and diminutive cartridge, immediately evoking a bygone era. Thats a pretty powerful design. .17 Remington Fireball next to its parent case, the .221 Remington Fireball. Lighter loads like Federals Varmint & Predator 35-grain Tipped Varmint load, at 3000 fps, can be zeroed at 200 yards, striking 3.1 inches high at 100, but will drop off quickly after 200 yards. Hope I can wait till Christmas . The 218 Bee, 219 Donaldson Wasp, 225 Winchester, 220 Swift They all take .224 bullets. There is nothing wrong with your Bee for the smaller aminals, especially if the range won't exceed 150 yards. I don't remember it ever shooting over an 1". for the .222 Remington. It drives a 40-grain about 3,400 fps and may be a better varminting option than its parent. Mag..375 Ruger vs. .375 H&H Magnum7mm-08 Remington vs. .280 Remington .280 Remington vs. .280 Ackley Improved 7mm vs. .30 Caliber6.5 Weatherby RPM vs. 6.5 PRC.338 Win. | Mag. 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