1957 collision over pacoima

There was a small courtyard between our building and the building next to us. Fascinating and, considering the effect her unresolved feelings might have had on her daughter, very sad. I am devastated by the deaths and injuries but so thankful that there were not more. Back then, my dad moonlighted as a news broadcaster at KGIL and, I believe, one of the radio network affiliates. Russ What does the school look like now? Your account is the first Ive heard of the tape being played on the radio, though it makes perfect sense. I was at school in La Crescenta doing sit ups out in our school field when we all saw smoke and the planes falling right after impact. I listened to it on the radio after coming home from school that day and it scared the living daylights out of me. Upon our arrival, she called the school to tell them that I had been found. Good to hear from a neighbor I lived in one of the very nearby tract homes and was always impressed by houses like yours, with the gigantic yards and big ranch-style houses. Your brother, with his lifelong fear of flying, is not alone. Pacoima Jr. High School Airplane Crash of 1957 (audio recording as it happened) Photos accident date: 31-01-1957 type: Douglas DC-7B registration: N8210H Map This information is not presented as the Flight Safety Foundation or the Aviation Safety Network's opinion as to the cause of the accident. I just wanted to bring you up to date on this very historic and important audio you are allowing us to use for the disaster drill this summer. I joined Newport Beach Fire Department in 1971. Terry Brown. He developed an intense fear of flying and died in a plane crash 2 years later I suspect hydraulic lines were severed causing loss of control to flaps and the like. Our family lived at 13328 Kagel Cyn. There are few things I can imagine that would be more frightening than a large, breaking-apart airplane hurtling toward me. I actually ended up on this page because i had a nightmare about me sitting in a plaine while it crashed in my school, and first when i google it i ended up on this page : http://dreammoods.com/cgibin/dreamdictionarysearch.pl?method=exact&header=dreamsymbol&search=plane about dream symnols interpretation, and actually its no wonder it crashedinto school since i feel so streesed about my exams and getting accepted into a university. Paul Morse, who passed away a few years ago, was a very close friend of my family. It was so scary. Thank you for writing about your memory of that day. Hell, I was only in the 4th grade, I had watched the movies, but this was nothing like the movies, this was real. I was in the third grade. May I have permission to post your link onto a Facebook page called, https://www.facebook.com/groups/59234735717/, as well as my own? I assume you went to Pacoima after Terra Bella. I would be glad to send a copy of the audio there is no video to you in mp3 format. Then again, I was only five so everything probably sounded unusual. Another part of the story is that Russ and our mom had been at the Pacoima Congregational Church, just next door to PJH, earlier that morning. I too remember seeing debris in the sky. My mother received telegram condolences from all over the world -my father was in the Air Transport Command during WWII, then went to work for Seaboard & Western training pilots in various countries to fly the Douglas aircraft, then went to work for Douglas as a test pilot. Thought you might be interested. Jets were taking off and landing, rattling my nerves. Thanks Terry Brown. Outside, we could see the carnage. The program we developed is known as START (Simple Triage And Rapid Transport). I Dont know how to send it to you. Although the DC7 was a prop plane, I seemed to have associated all forms of jet noise to the crash. Today. Since you obviously have a much more personal connection to the story and the events of that day, Id like to know what you think of my version, and if you or anyone else involved has any comments, corrections or suggestions. He was killed in the 1957 Pacoima mid-air collision . It was deafening. He still has bad dreams and I believe he was profoundly affected in ways we may never know. God Bless you all. Most Fire and Police Departments, and EMS agencies have adopted post incident stress debriefing or counseling programs (late 1970s). I remember talking to Terry a few years ago and getting a good sense of how troubling his memory lapse was to him. The fighter jet's pilot, Roland E. Owen, died when the aircraft plummeted in flames into La Tuna Canyon in the Verdugo Mountains. Some of the people profiled are famous, but most are not. I think there was a lot of heroism on that day, but few names have been mentioned. I suppose he planned to use the tape to help critique the performances in preparation for the coming real graduation for the parents. The tragedy gained national notoriety when angry Pacoima parents successfully petitioned officials to prohibit future test flights over populated areas. I was assigned a family with a 16 year old girl who had run away from home. The post Changes Everything appeared first on The Nation. MIchael Russell also a graduate of James Monroe High School, as was Donna. Jeet Heer The Establishment focus on personal scandals helps cover up the former presidents reckless belligerence. This site has confirmed my memories of the crash. He was a Sabre Jet mechanic. [10][11] The program described when and how both planes took off from their respective airfields, and included discussion of how the Pacoima Junior High School was having the 7th-grade students outside for exercise. What I remember next was the sound. Needless to say, I always ask GOD to please be with me and my family whenever we fly. I was in the 6th grade at Beachy Ave. As I was running, I saw the kids trying to climb the fence, the fires, the screaming, and some of the injured. My Dad was at home less than a block away. Thats all there is to it. When I connected Richards name with the picture I remember him. Years later, my husband worked with a gentlemen named Pat, who lost his leg in the event. [4], The DC-7B, with a portion of its left wing shorn off, remained airborne for a few minutes. The full story by Cecilia Rasmussen is online: L.A. Then and Now The day fiery disaster fell from the sky. He was in Kindergarden at the school next door to Pacoima Jr High. Thanks again for providing such a helpful service for those who need it and thank you especially for your sensitive and very specific comments to each person who has written his/her account. I read that some of Valenss friends were killed when that plane touched down. Eight people were killed, including three students at Pacoima Junior High School. This comment is for Allen Hester. I have wondered if I really heard this, but after reading the other accounts on this site I am sure I did. As I wrote above, he almost never spoke of the disaster. A school official tries to calm the students by announcing, It was a jet blast. We watched the helicopters for the rest of the afternoon, flying back and fourth with stretchers on each side carrying the dead and injured (they looked like the helicopters from M.A.S.H.). Other commenters remember the same chilling sight. I retired in 2001 and am down to about one a month now. To be honest i know it might be a burden for you but at the same time it will spread the knowledge about this plane crash even more. I remember dad once said (and I mean only once he rarely talked about that day) something about having to either identify or tend to (I cant remember which) a boy who had sustained a horrible head injury. John was their bass player. But he NEVER complains or asks why me?This recording is riveting. The impact tossed me through the air and I landed in a hot smoking oil slick. We entered the playground through the faculty parking lot and beheld a twisted, scorched and oil-soaked landscape. Embarrassingly enough, Ive never really thought about its continuation as a free, public-accessible document after Ive shuffled into the Great Beyond, or at least failed to maintain my account here for some other, less dramatic reason. Cant wait to visit from Michigan in a few weeks and I cant wait to show my kids my real home. They wrote about seeing a classmate bathed in smoking oil with his shredded jacket hanging off him. I remember seeing the hole in the field. Oddly enough, I dont think I actually heard the tape until I was well into my teens. My cousin, Ronnie, died on the playground that day. The two schools shared a common chain link fence about 10 feet high. So, it is not hard to understand why you cling to each other even though it was many years ago. diplomatic convoy attacked in Sudan amid new appeal for cease-fire, Putin pays second visit to Russian troops in occupied Ukraine, A U.S. reservist needed work. I think we were singing at the dedication of Pacoima Memorial Hospital. As it turned out, my brothers class was safe. We shared memories and that aroused my curiosity. Days later we were allowed back into class because a large piece of metal flew through and embedded in to the wall. At first it looked like one plane and its landing gear then as they got closer we could see it was two planes, then we saw the parachute. Your You Tube idea is good. I remember seeing the field with all the plane wreckage, fire and smoke, and people around the perimeter. I was able to share this information with the other professionals involved in the case and she was able, at least, to unload some of the emotions she had been holding inside. office next to the gym field when the plane went down, thought it was a nuclear attack, as well. I remember how frightened she was about it. There was a huge part of the plane lying in the small church parking lot that bordered the east side, To the west, several of the elementary bungalows that skirted the playing field, mine included, were pocked with gaping holes where debris had torn through the fence and into the rooms.. A boy, his hair covered in hot oil, walked blindly along the fence. We were unable to find an existing triage system to use. She was in the church office with her 18-month-old daughter, Kathy. If it not had been for the change of schedule that day due to the grad rehearsal I would have been on that gym field as well as many more students. Yours is one of the most illuminating and gut-wrenching accounts of the Pacoima crash Ive yet read. It was something they didnt know about each other. The impact was deafening, followed by fire and thick smoke. I was on the field when the DC7 came down. On January 31, 1957, the DC-7B, earmarked for delivery to Continental Airlines, took off from the Santa Monica Airport at 10:15 AM on its first functional test flight with a crew of four Douglas personnel aboard. An incredible bonding experience that lasted 50 years or more after graduation from high school. Like Randal said, I did not know where it crashed till I got home. Did the recorded sound of the plane going down sound similar to the sound you remember hearing? The DC-7B which was earmarked for delivery to Continental Airlines, took off from the Santa Monica Airport at 10:15 a.m. on its first functional test flight, with a crew of four. I am rather dismayed to see that you have removed my post. Little did I know that a plane had crashed at the school my brother was attending. Prior to the plane crash, my row was drawing/painting on easels next to the windows. Accident I was in 9th grade at Pacoima Junior High School, when the plane crash occurred.. Love, On that day, two planes collided in mid-air, crashing to the ground in the school yard of Pacoima Junior High. Thanks for writing and for your kind words for the victims and their families. Because of the oxide stripping and other deterioration factors, I transferred the recording to 1/4-inch reel-to-reel, casette and, ultimately, digital. I remember thinking, please dont put one of those things in my hair or on my clothes. HI Russ And when I got out my parents had moved us to Palmdale. I was 5 years old. Im now 63, born in 1952. I find it interesting that he is walking solo through the crash site. I, too, remember bits of metal raining down against the blue sky. He now lives in Boulder City, NV. One more way the Buchanan family was connected to that grisly day. May they Rest In Peace. Both jets and the DC-7B were performing their individual tests at an altitude of 25,000 feet (7,600m) in clear skies over the San Fernando Valley when, at about 11:18a.m., a high-speed, near-head-on midair collision occurred. I would like to listen to your audio recording, but havent been able to make it work. Thanks for your comment and attaboy, I appreciate it. Later that afternoon when my father came home, we drove to the seen. The History Guy made a report of this crash recently (July, 2018): Hi, Dan yeah, I checked it out. I saw a photo of a kid (student?) It was in the 7th or 8th grade that Kurt Adams, the co-pilot of the Scorpian Jet, the only survivor of either plane, came to my house and introduced himself. I then went to San Fernando High until, in a fit of good judgment, they kicked me out. Thank you for your kind words about dad. I offer my best wishes to all who shared this experience. \pard\pardeftab720\sl400\partightenfactor0 I had a clear view of the plane. It was my seventh grade classmates that were on the field that day. I remember watching the news that evening, and one of the Mothers of one of the boys killed was crying and said I didnt even kiss him goodbye this morning This interview was on TV. is using a digitally restored copy of my crash audio for a large training exercise this year. Thanks for sharing, Russ. Women and men wept openly and copiously. Thanks for your perspective on that day. Im a cousin of Ronnie Brann who lost his life that day. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Its been a while since I was in the LA school system. I forgot to mention in the story that the adjacent church was my familys church. My dad had Richie Valens in one of his classes and remembered him fondly. Does anyone know who this kid is? For some, a life-changer. Not long after that we moved to Northern California. Even though this crash was well documented, it just seemed to fade away and no one spoke about it, but in my mind it was big. Thank you for your posting. Then I dont remember anything until I woke up again and the first person I was was Coach DeGroot at the foot of my bed. I agree that the audio recording of the Pacoima Airplane Crash is an important bit of history, and that it should remain in the public domain easy to hear and free for long into the future. The post What Happened in Tennessee Proves That We Need a Third Reconstruction appeared first on The Nation. I realized I was only 3 years old. I was chatting with a man I met in the waiting room at Holy Cross Surgery Center today. Richard Berger was badly burned, but on our graduation day played piano beautifully, telling me his learning to play was therapeutic. A few months ago I was listening to the recording for the zillionth time, and decided to put it up on the blog. Once I approve a comment, it is there for good unless the commenter requests that I remove it. I was telling my son and his girlfriend just the other night about the crash. The DC7 had the outer wing clipped off.out further than the outboard engine. Thank you very much for commenting and sharing the post with your family. Jul 6, 2018 | Lance Geiger, Show More Support The History Guy If you love history, this is the channel to support! That sent chills up my spine. HE CARRIED HIS GUITAR WHERE EVER HE WENT. There was more jet noise. I googled the crash to see when it occurred and was brought to your article. The crash also prompted the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) to set restrictions on all aircraft test flights, both military and civilian, requiring that they be made over open water or specifically approved sparsely populated areas.[4]. Three students and . In doing so, it began raining debris onto the Pacoima neighborhoods below as the aircraft began to break apart. After reading the information I guess I was amazed at the life experiences especially involving the military that he had already accumulated when I knew him. I sent him an email link to your site to see if he remember it. Debris on the Pacoima Junior High School Athletic Field A few minutes after 11:00 AM on January 31, 1957, teacher John Buchanan began recording the graduation ceremony being held for 800 students gathered in the San Fernando Valley's Pacoima Junior High School auditorium. I remember the floor jumped. At that moment everything was chaos and the next thing I remember was my teacher yelling at us to go home. Thank God she made it back safely. I think my sister and my father knew your cousin. They wouldnt talk to me about it or answer questions and I have wondered all these years what happened. At PJHS, I was good friends with John Ritoli who played with a band called the Showmen. Your dadwherever he ismust be very proud of you, because its clear that you hold gently and carefully the hearts of those who experienced this event. Im glad I was down, because there was an engine embedded in the asphalt 25 feet away in the same direction I was running. If anyone knows, please write. By the time they let us out of school, the bodies and the injured were taken away, we saw them fly over our heads in the helicopters, but the wreckage was still there, everywhere. I remember January 31, 1957, like it was yesterday. Clearly this photo was taken a few weeks after the crash. I was 9 years old when the crash happened I was at San Jose Street School, near Woodman and Devonshire in the valley I can remember our windows rattled and some even broke. Oh, and who was Richie Valens best friend I know it was one of the boys that died but who was it. Im working on a book about the Pacoima crash, surrounding events and people. This is something I have been meaning to do for decades and now I will actually be able to do this. I remember there was an electrical problem that caused his amp to repeatedly emit a very loud flatulent-like sound at about a billion decibels, while the lead microphone was sending blue arcs of house current into my nose. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Thanks for commenting, Anthony. We couldnt get any further than the chain link fence surrounding the school. When did your dad retire. . Whenever I play golf at Hansen Damn, I always try to drive through the old neighborhood. I was only 7 at the time, and I went to Terra Bella Elementary, next door. http://www.janm.org/collections/item/96.267.412/ wow that sent chills. I hope your visit back to the homeland proves to be a great time. I was a 6th-grader at Haddon Avenue School that day. Hey, Terry Im glad Gary was able to shine some light on that day for you. He must have lived near me on Beachy Ave. As it completed the turn, the jet slammed into the wing of a DC-7B transport plane returning to Douglas Aircrafts Santa Monica plant on a routine test run. As a five-year-old, I was home with my mom. Thanks for commenting. What an interesting find that must have been. With the help of other Paramedics, Nurses, Physicians, Fire Chiefs, private ambulance companies, and other Orange County Agencies, the plan is in place and several Mass Casualty Drills are put on every year. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B transport plane crashed into the school yard of Pacoima Junior High School, 9919 Laurel Canyon Boulevard, after colliding with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane. PJH Student from the 60. It was chaos on the field of the junior high school. Of course, none of us knew how to play so our poker sessions were quite long and involved. Valens was not at school that day because he was attending the funeral of his grandfather. I guess you figured the best way to keep those things airborne was to pilot them yourself. Hello Phyllis, I was in the auditorium getting ready to graduate.LInda Lutrell was a very good friend of mine.I will never forget that day and just now listened to the recording.I was shocked at my reaction to it.I went to grade school and Jr. High with Linda and wouod love to connect with her again,its been years..My name then was Lana Brosamle.Linda was in our little group of girls.Pat Cox, Dorothy Alexander, Marlene Sherman. I myself am from europe and didnt no anything about this incident before my little exam/school related nightmare, and if there was not written anything about it on the internet i would never ever have known anything about what happened in in 1957, i dont even know where carlifonia is on a map, so i think your story is really reaching out to people. Our conversation focused on the plane crash. She never remarrried, and celebrated her 94th birthday this month. I read that the school does not have any kind of monnoument or something about the accident, which i think is a shame, couse even though such memories are hard to remember i think they should be remembered for the safety of children in the future, i think the school should definitely not just try to push the memories away and try to forget, because. Do not know which branch. Probably both. I read the reports and listened to your Dads tape. This really brings events of the day to life. She told him she didnt know where I was. Are you going to go to Pacoima when you get out of sixth grade or is sixth grade now in middle school? At 11:18 a.m., while the aircraft were performing their test operations over the San Fernando Valley, one of the F-89s collided with the Douglas DC-7B. I was soaked in oil, my heavy coat was ripped up from flying bits of metal but had no real injuries. The two-minute recording opens with Latrelles speech in progress. I always remembered it in my mind, but this was the first time I heard it againamazing, its just the way I remembered. They had come to the school because, of course, they had children there. An estimated 75 more students on the school playground suffered critical and minor injuries. In a Jan. 28, 2007, story staff writer Cecilia Rasmussen reported: On Jan. 31, 1957, a clear, crisp Thursday morning, twin Scorpion fighter jets from Northrops Palmdale facility engaged in routine scissors interceptions -- first one plane, then the other, served as a target to test radar equipment. The event is depicted in the film La Bamba, the 1987 biopic of rock 'n' roll figure Ritchie Valens, who was a 15-year-old student at Pacoima Junior High School at the time of the disaster. The auditorium doors can be heard slamming open from the concussion of the crash. Both escaped injury. I remember, we used to have drop drills at Beachy Elementary often. Hey, Bob My friend Donald Berizen was in his Boy Scout troop which was later named for him. I was a student in the seventh grade on Thank you. if your gone its hard, but if your gone and no one remembers you, thats seems even harder for me. Matt Davies Again. Yeah, the Pacoima crash touched so many people. Look in your email I wrote you.RB | |. I was injured in the plane crash and would like to talk with others who remember what happened.I dont. I think I was about a year after you. It would strictly be for my own use I wouldnt post it or use it in any other public way. Your comment is the first wide-angle account written here. I didnt know his son had been injured in the crash but I am glad to hear he is carrying on the family mission. As I lost view of the plane, a few seconds later I saw a huge ball of flames and black smoke rise into the air. My mom was pretty sore that my dad hadnt called her. Unfortunately Raymond was killed in a motorcycle accident in his twenties. or aiff. My brother was terrified of flying his entire life. Thanks, Knight. He lived just a couple of streets over from where we lived. Our bungalow classroom backed up to the fence division. And of course was concerned as to the whereabouts of his family. Small wonder, it sounds like it was a mini-Armageddon. I know three students died. My uncles story was one that has not been told and I think it added to your blog rather than detracting from it. All events are portrayed in historical context and for educational purposes. Then we saw the smoke from impact. There was fire. Also, you might be interested in the Then and Now site about the crash. She checks the comments here from time to time and I know shell be glad to see these boys are still remembered. Mary Jo Losso-Engle, Los Angeles, CA. I was doing some research on this so thanks for posting the information. Distinct craters were made in the playground by each of the four engines and the main center fuselage section. We often walked home together from Pacoima Junior High. It includes important response assets such as Hospital Emergency Response Teams (HERT), Emergency Medical Cashes, hospital communication methods (to help avoid moving the disaster from the scene to nearby hospitals that are already overwhelmed). [citation needed], The 1957 crash was discussed on the May 19, 1957, episode of The CBS Radio Workshop (entitled "Heaven Is In the Sky"). I miss that school so much. What was your memory of that day, were you injured, did the wreakage resemble a plane? Sherman Oaks proved to be worse mostly rich bitch snobs. I was dripping, head to toe, from the oil and now walking with a limp rather than running. [9] However, in the nightmare sequences of the film, the first collision was portrayed by two general aviation aircraft (one of which was the Beechcraft Bonanza in which Valens actually died), as opposed to the aircraft in the actual disaster. EveRuth ing was out of control..we ran out of building aND witnessed a devastating scene. As I looked out the window, almost instantly people came from nowhere. Suddenly, Mr. Snyder saw me and literally picked me up by the scruff of my neck and the seat of my pants and threw me back into my room and dove in behind me! 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