I HAVE BEEN POISONED, RAN OVER BY A LARGE TRUCK, WHICH I SUFFERED A BROKEN NECK, TRAUMATIC We all should. The film also starred Chloe Sevigny as his girlfriend Lana Tisdel. Now, how would a teen-age girl know this? He moved into the home of Lisa Lambert and later started dating Lana Tisdel. Thats what Lotter and Nissen believed as well. Teena loved authority in the way of any good soldier who will fall in line and gladly stand at attention if the occasion calls for it. Do you know who punches and kicks women in the stomach? En dcouvrant la vrit sur Teena, ce dernier entre dans une rage meurtrire. Who knows for sure? All involved young men and twenty somethings. Im sorry, but where is there evidence of this? Tisdel sued the creators of the film Boys Don't Cry for using her name and likeness without permission; the suit was settled out of court. AFFORDABLE, Look at her mugshot. Nissen knew that Teena was biologically female and he desired her sexually, same with Lotter. A job you should never give an inmate, but here we are. Lambert's son Tanner was in the house at the time and was unharmed. John Lotter is a very violent criminal. Downtown: Brandon Teena's Tragic Story. Give it a rest Marcus. Nissen was not so ignorant. See the difference? THREATENED, Good point low intelligence is not an excuse for cruel behavior. LANA by LANA, released 20 March 2020 1. So, all hate crime is crime, but not all crime is a hate crime. That quid pro quo is what is truly missing in every aspect of our lives right now. While friends would later describe him as sweet, clean cut, and respectable, Brandon did acquire some legal troubles of his own. Thank you, Marcus. They are monsters!!!! Particular care in this case would need to be made that he had capacity to know his actions were wrong before imposing death, and if in any doubt, that would indicate life without parole (as necessarily theres no potential for rehabilitation). But Lotter and Nissan dont have a whole lot at stake in that regard. Tisdel's mother, Linda Gutierres, who died on December 2, 2003,[6] at age 54, was portrayed in the film by Jeannetta Arnette. Lotter, you claim to be innocent? For that, she paid with her life. For instance, according to Court testimony, Teena comes up to Lana Tisdels house, knocks on her door, and says something to the effect I spent a long time trying to find you, and Lana Tisdel lets Brandon inside and gives him a beer. L.L. Teenas sister spoke on the phone to Tom Nissen and told him that Teena Brandon had a sex change surgery scheduled in several months and that Teena would be fully male after that. OFF WITH THEIR EVIL HEADS!! Everyone wanted her to move and she had no place to go, also, for many reasons, she was not the easiest person to get along with. Not so. With regards to Teena, Nissen made several statements to authorities about what he did to her and about his intentions for her, always using highly sexualized language, even when situation did not call for it, such as when he showed up at the police station trying to get Teenas bail revoked. . God rest their souls. I will choose, I will determine, how I express myself as I understand it relates to the world and its people. Point person. I was there. She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. In his current version, they found Teena hiding under the blanket, she got up and sat on the edge of the bed, the three of them argued loudly, and then they murdered her. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. It is a temper tantrum because he could not find a screen play in Teena Brandons tragedy. They deposited him in his crib before they fled. Nissen signed statements & testifies against you, Lotter. She COULDVE been posing as male as an experiment perhaps to help her make a final decision on surgery. You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. I have to agree. There was a 1954 article measuring tomboyishness in girls and sissiness in boys growing up, 33% of boys have girlish traits and a whopping 66% of girls have boyish traits. Jones leaves stuff out. The last time Lana Tisdels name came up in the press was the year 2000, when she settled a lawsuit with movie distributor Searchlight Pictures for an undisclosed sum. As far as diagnosing trans people, sex reassignment surgery is the cure of last resort, and only after all of the other issues have been address. When taken in this context, Sheriff Lauxs infamous interview of Teena is not as preposterous as it seems, though it does not absolve Laux, since he behave horribly towards Teena and towards her sister after she came in to take Teenas things after she was murdered. There are widely circulating and well documented accounts of how Teena Brandon was blowing off her probation officers, John Dunne recounts one such story where Teena made an excuse saying that she had to go help with a certain aunt. Lisa Lambert's name was changed to Candace in the movie. You people need to have some respect. They could have raped Lisa or another woman but they chose Brandon, specifically to humiliate her because she was trans. There is also indication that Teena took Tom Nissen to her mothers trailer home. I guess for now ill settle for bookmarking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. The next article you should look at is Carolyn Gages The Inconvenient Truth About Teena Brandon, which gives a good account of Teenas psychiatric symptoms and why she was hospitalized, and has a great reveal in the end. Teena was not taking steroids, as far as I know. S/he was indeed female, and no fiddling with genitalia nor pharmacological therapy could change that. They should have run that man out of town. People traumatized by torture suffer in a certain way when they realize that they are going to be tortured again, and Lotter noticed and attempted to describe it, without knowing what it is. In simplifying and celebrating the cross-dressing aspects of the story, the film makers never found out the real Teena Brandon, how awesome she was, despite her problems and her bad deeds, and what a tragedy her murder really was. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Struggle to survive. For this is the flip side of identity fixation. I suggest you leave the diagnosing to the real medical professionals like the doctor who commented here. There was a lot going on between them and it tied them to other individuals. One good argument against capital punishment is its very expensive because of the years of costly litigation (typically over $1m by execution day) years and cost that are probably justified to ensure thorough fairness when life is at stake (defendants have been exonerated years after death row occupancy) Its absurd to take typically 15 years and $1m+ to execute the offender rather than award life without parole: crazy for taxpayers and maddening for victims loved ones experiencing a very protracted deferral of sentence. She needed men as an audience for which she would get in bed with any girl, either to show off for her male pack of to get their approval, a feminine trait, but not reserved for women only. There are those who shrilly demand conformity as though this is a settled matter. HIT BY THAT I got news for em. To say anything untoward about him will ruin friendships that took many years to develop. The only difference is that Taliban are true believers not afraid to die, and Lotter is a coward. 1 Antagonist. BRAIN INJURY,AS WELL AS OTHER INJURIES! Just because he was born a female does not mean you cant call him by the correct prounons. You also try to use her mental illness history as another reason the crime didnt happen due to her trans status but because she tried to ingratiate herself with these thugs. Lana was one of the key witnesses in the case because of her status as Brandon's girlfriend. I think both you guys should be sitting on death row myself. ), you contradict yourself. Lotter and Nissen, both 22, were ex-convicts with insurmountable pasts. Teena Brandon and Nissen drove to Lincoln, NE together on more than one occasion, once for Teenas Court appearance, and another time to see Teenas sister to get some money. Full disclosure I dont believe in the death penalty either. A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. The sheriffs lines when interviewing Brandon after the rape(s) are appalling. The truly informative articles are as follows: Eric Konigsbergs Death Of A Deceiver. This was actually an investigation, where multiple journalists interviewed many people, and Konigsberg is a Lincoln, NE native. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. He is not getting away from her! There, he befriended ex-convicts John L. Lotter and Marvin Thomas "Tom" Nissen. At some point, Teena also introduced Tom Nissen to her sister. In January 2020, she was released after serving just 12 months of her sentence. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. She has been married to Josh Bachman since 2001, and they are blessed with a daughter and two sons. Having agreed that Brandon is male your subsequent assertion either had to contradict that or was otiose. Eric Koenigsberg writes in his article that Teena had such a fear of rejection, but what most fail to understand is that this rejection was not a rejection in intimacy, but a social rejection. She was tapped to be a manager at a restaurant where she once worked. When I started my research back in 1994, wanting to meed another girl like her, I discovered certain excellent research forgotten today. Both Lana Tisdel and Ton Nissen knew Teenas biological gender, because Teena told them. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. No, I post here, because that who Teena was and that is what happened to her. Apparently an act Teena put on for Lana. "United States Public Records, 19702009," database, FamilySearch (May 23, 2014), Lana M Tisdel, Grant, Nebraska, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information. r: I need do nothing of the sort thankfully cos I live in a democracy which allows (just!) Thats all that matters. Brandons mother, JoAnn, won $80,000 in a civil suit against the county for failing to arrest Lotter and Nissen immediately after the rape charges were filed. Nissen uses Teenas proper name (Tenna) and claims to now be a Celtic Pagan prison priest. Them low life murders will have to answer to god and he awaits. Also, certain things she was closer with Nissen that she was with Tisdel. TERRORIZED, If I recall correctly, Nissen has two sex assault type charges on his rap sheet. Disappointment (excerpt) a 6song, 1 track tribute to Lana Tisdel. Its incoherent nonsense but its everywhere; and right- (with a small r) thinking people feel too cowed by vicious liberal intolerance to call a spade a spade and say wait a minute arent you getting a bit carried away? There was a study that showed black ad brown kids having an inner image of themselves as blond and blue-eyed, like their favorite actors in the movies. But investigative reporters dig, except not in this case. No: biological female = female. Most likely, Teena re-traumatized herself. That whole town is sick. Teena was devastated by the final rejection from the military. I oppose the death penalty but if these two DO know right from wrong they surely are indeed fitting candidates, I spose this was, or would now, be termed a hate-crime: a category I think is nonsense. Unlike you I know all of the details of how she was beaten, and I know what it signifies. You people love to ignore using his correct prounons like one way to respect him is use HE AND HIM. After they raped Teena, they told her that they would murder her if she told anyone, and Teena believed them. Sadly, her mother, Linda Gutierres, who came off as a flawed but not irredeemable character in the documentary, died in 2003 at the age of 54. Teena Brandon was great, because she had a personal strength ethic of heroic proportions. Dont you all find it strange, how the punitive legal franchise inherited from England that bullies and mishandles us all and stands beside the same Cabals Central banking scam is still called the Crown Temple Franchise and how it was forever passed through the ages Intact? Of itself, Id say that IQ test result is much too crude a basis to determine criminal culpability (and is not used here in UK). Also, DP trials are more expensive for several reasons: they often require extra lawyers; there are strict experience requirements for attorneys, leading to lengthy appellate waits while capable counsel is sought for the accused; security costs are higher. She is from United States. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance. In the first version, Teena was attempting to hide under the blanket, literally tongue tied and paralyzed with terror. Decide for yourselves. That night, adult inmates beat him to a bloody pulp, and tortured him by burning him with cigarettes and lit matches between his toes. Gender identity is the gender a person identifies with or feels themselves to be, and is their own or a social construction. He failed to treat her underlying problems (and then a reasonably stabilized person could make a determination what they want). Stop calling him a she or a her. The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. Lotter, whose criminal record traces back to a 1987 theft and escape conviction at age 16, occupies a cell on death row in the Tecumseh State Correctional Institution. Taxpayers in DP states need to ask themselves if there could be a WORSE way of spending their money than this! Brandon identified as male and wanted surgery for whatever reason maybe even so that more ignorant people would see him as a male. But it (identity) doesnt matter, as some commentators would have it. it does not matter what his agab (assigned gender at birth) is, he identified as a man and used he/him pronouns and you need to respect that. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Is everybodys IQ low in that town? A few days later, on New Year's Eve 1993, Lotter and Nissen came to the Tisdel residence drunk and looking for Brandon, and threatened the Tisdel sisters. A final thought: Id be interested to know why they saved the baby. Undermining that premise makes it hard to take the moral highground. Well, maybe they did. If all they did was kill her, you could have made the argument they did it only because she ratted on them. L.L. [10], In August 2020, Tisdel was injured in a car accident when she struck Glenn D. Aston, 66, head-on. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. Truth be told he just wanted to humiliate Brandon. Among other things, Teenas gay male cousins claimed that Teena showed them the part of Lincoln, known as The Loop, where men go cruising for younger men. She then became a reluctant witness, not willing to implicate Nissen and get him arrested. Nobody is in school at that point, Lana having graduated the previous spring. I have seen it occur before. Lotter and Nissen, portrayed by actors Peter Sarsgaard and Brendan Sexton III, were already in prison for murder by the time the movies came out. I may wish my old nag were a racehorse, and call him a racehorse, but calling him one no more makes him one than does calling a biological female a male or darkness light. Lotter used to beat up strangers at the convenience store where Lana Tisdel worked, for any perceived slight against her; Lotter took police on a multi state car chase, once went for a police officers gun once and almost got killed. SUFFERED This week, well take a little sabbatical from Forensic Files to observe the 25th anniversary of Brandon Teenas murder a true-crime case little known outside of Nebraska until Hollywood came knocking. We all wonder what on earth theyre doing the answer being fetishising the murderous/rapist/criminal object. BTW, I believe that part of the brutality and humiliation of what was done to her was done because she was successfully competing with Lotter and Nissen for dominance, and both liked her as a woman, and emotionally, Teena was really a traumatized girl. What Happened to Brandon Teenas Most Famous Ex? Teena may have identified as male, but she was a girl, and the crime is a better example of violence against women than it is of transphobia. Sounds a lot like premeditated to me. ATTACK DOG PUT UPON ME, After everything she had experienced before her death, she made it clear that her name was Teena. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. I AM A FORMER PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER, WHO The Tisdel family appeared on the TV shows Maury and A Current Affair, to discuss Brandon Teena and the trial proceedings. John Lotter shot and murdered the three people, how can you people be so gullible as to accept the word of a convicted felon who contradicted himself under oath? JoAnn received only $17,000, according to an account from writer Charles Laurence that ran in the (Ottawa) Citizens Weekly on April 2, 2000. It should be mocked and rejected as deeply dangerous. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. Too bad, Lotter got more help from the well meaning morons trying to get him off the death row than Teena got from highly paid professionals whose job it was to help her. Lotter described an unusual look in Teenas eyes. In 2007, Nissen made a surprise announcement that he, and not Lotter, actually fired the bullets that killed Brandon Teena, Phillip Devine, and Lisa Lambert.Lotter demanded a new trial on that basis, but he never got one. Every aspect of our lives right now to implicate Nissen and get him arrested in the penalty! 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