I will be calling you soon to discuss some specifics. but now have lowered my speed because of the price of fuel as many others have done. I am based in Reno, NV but grew up in Southern California and look forward to getting back on the water fishing. One piece fore peak or deck 1 form core with about 2.5 of crown. Here's a real-world example of successful repowering, using a boat that most of us lust after: The Bertram 31 of the 1960s and '70s is on almost every list of Best Boats Ever, so there's a lot of information available on performance when new. by John F. May 17th, '16, 09:00, Post Luckily the prior owner was onboard with the Seaboard way so when I took possession there were already several nice upgrades in place so I had an excellent starting point to continue with further customization and add-ons. After its restoration it has real weight with half-filled deposit of 7.5 tones. Vents The tower is anchored by stanchions of three-foot custom aluminum tubing and provides seating for two. The rail on mine (picture) is mostly stock Bertram except for the part around the pulpit. Just some of my thoughts. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 08:05, Post One of several Bertram 31 models, more than 1,000 Flybridge Cruisers were built over the years. Just always been uneasy about wireless on things such as this or are you referring to a wired remote? FAQ; Home. Its bigger, beefier and better looking.. by Tony Meola Sep 22nd, '08, 20:48, Post Everyone, everywhere in our world knows the 31 Bertram. Both will need roughly a 20" diameter wheel. A lot has happened to make changes in Yanmar and Cummins replacement engines over the past year or so. 42 Provincial Adjusters and Cleats Our business plans have changed and lack of time forces sell. Just an idea to think about. The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. NEVER an issue dropping or hauling anchor solo. 3 were diesel boats 3 were gas boats. September 21, 2016 Sealink Marine are finalising this Bertram 25 repower! One stripe equals 30 feet, 2 stripes equals 60 feet etc. With the off-chance that either they fail earlier or I decide to move quicker, any thoughts on current model year replacement engines? Urbandale: DM - I-35/80 @ Meredith Dr (57) Saylor: DM - I-35 @ Corporate Woods DMS (37) Cedar Rapids: CR - I-380 @ 8th St NE (11) Pleasant Hill: DM - University Ave @ Hickory (46) Beverly Depot: CR - US 30 @ Williams Blvd SW (24) Council Bluffs: CB - 23rd Avenue . From my post, I said "I'm looking at a 1980 with original 504's" and my concerns were if and when I needed to re-power, what today's thoughts are from the experts updated from 7 or 8 years ago when this thread started. by bob lico Jun 14th, '16, 12:33, Post I have the opportunity to go forward with it and I want to do it right. This motors are cheap to repair and maintain. Weve been serving local Ventura County, California since 1980 as a custom boat builder, repower specialist, designer, and supplier of equipment to builders, commercial fishermen, and recreational users. Good Luck! The $$ adder was minimum IMO in comparison to the overall benefits.. next time around Ill bolt a QSB 380 into the 25 TJ !! Helm and passenger seating is a custom arrangement they seattwo each complete with footrests and storage. Repower Sales . Who knows what the 120's made at the prop. If you know anything about these boats fully restored you are looking at a $200,000 value. Adding the cabin and bridge moved the CG orward of where C. Raymond Hunt intended it. Plastic Rub Rails scenarioL113 Senior Member Posts: 680 Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 2:00 pm Location: Massapequa Park, NY. 35 Egg Harbor Ralph *** ***. Regarding engine choice If the same boat was side by side with QSBs, I still would have opted for the mechanical B, it was my target power, but thats just a personal preference, others would totally disagree with that comment.they all have their advantages, Im just a bit old school. 30 Lobster Boat Many of the several thousand built are still in use today, around the globe, still catching more than their share. 6BTA 370 Tier I with ZF220A gear + mounts, New Flybridge controls including motor sync, Cockpit deck lighting In flaring and on deck Where to mount or have integrated in flaring, Fiberglass Hardtop, Stainless steel frame with full Eisenglas, Solid fiberglass Front window and sliding side windows, Full west coast stainless steel railing package. They were older carb'd 454s. Bait Wells Once we clear this hurdle, I will have to evaluate what accessories and cosmetic issues to address. If you have a good shop nearby (I like speed shops--those guys know motors), you can have your 454s rebuilt for cheap, and have motors that are still really easy to work on and reliable. Did you consider the QSB series before making your decision? x 33 ft.), SMX Bronze Freshwater Flush Cap for Groco ARG Series Strainers, Bronze Tee Adapter and Freshwater Flush System, Military Style Top Post Battery Terminals, Heavy Duty Marine Grade 316L Stainless Steel Washers, Cummins Marine Diamond Performance Series Engine Sticker, ZF Marine Transmission Sales & Current Inventory, ZF 45-85 A/IV Shift & Troll Cable Bracket, ZF Marine Transmission Oil Drain Line Kit, Suredrive Coupling for Borg Warner & ZF 220A, Suredrive Coupling for ZF 301 & 302 VLD/IV with Vulkan L, Marine Flex Plate (Velvet Drive, SAE 11.5), Vulkan Vulkardan-E (2K3411S004) SAE No. Marine and Boating Websites by YATCO BoatDeck, New 383 MAG Inboard 4V a perfect repower for all Bertram 28, 31 & 35s. While we are at your vessel we take engine and transmission installation measurements and discuss with you in person every aspect of the repower. I paid 30g for a Used set of 270s with about 150 hours on them, (engines, gears, struts and props) there are good deals if you take your time looking. I do not have an unlimited budget and acknowledge I will have to make some tough choices. Bill Fuller wrote:..Also, I always found the foot operated windlass switch on the bow a pain. Thanks for all the input, guys. Presently looking at a 31 in nice shape, with original Cummins 504's that are also said to be in nice shape. WOW! This boat needs nothing but updating. Where I boat there are long stretches of river running to the ocean and I didnt want a down easter that cruised at 16 knots. They are making excellent progress and have really cleaned up the under deck area and engine compartments. I dont know, I like to keep things simple, it would take a bit to get me to leave behind my mechanical Bs, unless maybe if I lived down the street from Corey. Niels, Tony, Bob - I appreciate your point of view on Yanmars - definitely a personal preference thing. Can you send me more pictures please if the boat is still available. The deep step from cockpit to cabin is covered by custom starboard that provides a flat floor across entire cockpit. Quick links. Below that they are about the same. The yanmar's are a little more money but seem easier on the installation side and would reduce the cost. 31 Albamar MOBY DICK is a leisure boat Bertram 31 fly, made in 1962 and acquired in 2013 to be restored. Hello Bill Thank you for the comments and very nice catch! 2) Execution (by the boatyard). The trick is in the rebuild. Sometimes it was a two person job and I never had confidence in hauling anchor without issues. Repower Projects "ORCA" H&H Downeast Lobster Boat Build; Farallon 27 Repower "Sea Harvester" Radon Boat Extension; . Unless salt water cooled your manifolds should last a good long time, risers on the other hand need to be replaced every few years "diesel don't loose rpm's going up the hill." by Bruce May 17th, '16, 20:30, Post if I go this route of a 31 with gassers I will intend to repower not long after. 36 Webber Cove Im looking for about 50 kts. The famous ride is undeniably one of the best. Show More. scot you hit the nail on the head i just did not bother going over this shaft talk over and over.the bert 31 is being converted from a gasser ---guess what laddies all installations you have to remove the shaft anyway to cut lenth to fit diesel, whoever your machine shop will drop the bomb ! by J Clark Sep 22nd, '08, 21:13, Post And, the way she has been designed with marlin tower location balance and engine weight set a bit deeper in the hull, this Bertram is not as wet as mostnot dry, but much better than most 31s. :-O. Way too much fuel as you can see, shes heavy. At 2200 rpms she burns about 26 gallons per hour, and holding almost 500 gallons of fuel, has a range of around 450 miles. The meeting place for all Classic Bertram Owners and Fans, Moderators: CaptPatrick, mike ohlstein, Bruce, Post by Harv Sep 22nd, '08, 21:51, Post All rights Reserved. Niels, look and my boat, Audax, and Noel May, you might get a better idea of what you are looking for rather than looking at Shooter. by Navatech May 17th, '16, 10:59, Post If you don't use a lot your boat on long cruises is better be on gas the maintenance is cheap. And many, probably most, have been modified, repowered, and renovated. I'll never ruin a $50 buzz with a $4 sandwich, bill what do you mean a little more money?the differance beween the two is 10,000 dollars .don`t you think that money would be better spent inproving effiency.capt. Therefore, we are able to offer the widest selection of motors at the best prices around. 4 1/2 years to build, Slashed Sept 16, 2016. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. | With regards to the 3.0's being underpowered, the boat came from bertram with 120 hp mercruisers and it appears they preformed quite well. 36 Osmand Bea Part of the reason for our success is our ability to understand customers needs and tailor each package to optimize budget and maximize vessel performance. Like Dug said it was a service issue. Thus if they do go a season or two, I'd be ahead of the game. Awesome Tony! This is what led me to Seaboard Marine and Tony to see what theycould do to help build my dream boat, a 31 Bertram. Often times several power options are examined prior to beginning the job. I had heard a number of stories about failed rebuilt long blocks from the major rebuilders. It has 9,32 meters length, 3,4 m. the boats beam and prop is 1,70 meters long. by fonsim May 17th, '16, 14:01, Post To accommodate all of the tackle necessary for canyon trips and trolling, the Priceless has 12 rod holders on gunwales and on transom, plus two additional rows of six rocket launchers on marlin tower. 40 Knot, 31 ft. Bertram Odyssey. my 2 cents. My reason for preferring the 330 HP motor is you simply dont need the added HP provided by the 370 (20 HP per side), and I assume you will be paying more for it. EGTs never exceed 700F-750F max at any rpm. Ill try to get more photos posted on a regular basis as time permits. Cockpit Panels. The universal opinions stem from the boat impact. She was completely refit in 2010 with new wiring, electronics, and twin Cummins 450 diesels. 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